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From: Richard Sargeant <Sargeant@arcade.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: The current plan
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Hi Carol. On Wed, 6 Aug 1997 10:23:14 GMT +0000 you wrote:
> Okay - here's what I've decided.
>
> After various deliberations in the acornet list about
> which versions to use and whether to use toolbox apps
> or alternatives here are my following intentions.
>
> As originally stated I felt that v0.20 should be just an apps
> update but still based on the Freenet I stack - since this
> seemed like it would involve minimal work. Followed by a 0.21
> which would be based of either freenet II or the Acorn stack.
Except you are not /just/ updating the applications in 0.19. As you
might gather I am a little concerned on how you have laid the path for
the migration of current Acornet users to switch over to Messenger.
Obviously Marc Sawle has gained many supporters following his recent
announcement on Sunday, 27th July made in comp.sys.acorn.announce.
Depite my occasional postings to the newsgroups about the work I've been
doing on TTFN, people still do not know whom to address queries about
TTFN - take for instance a query about the address book file I read
this week (that I have not replied to yet, although Tony H did give an
explanation why it occured; however it does not in any copy of 0.40).
It is claimed that TTFN has been updated to 0.40, but it does not
feature in the documentation that has been updated to reflect your
choice to ship Messenger instead of TTFN. In your last e-mail to me at
the end of July, you wrote to say you would not be partisan and would let
the end-users themselves decide which of the applications they preferred.
> I'd like to have an extra archive which contains the
> latest ttfn and freenews marked as 'alternatives'
I'll re-archive my current copy of 0.40 (last updated for the web
page <http://www.arcade.demon.co.uk/ttfn.html> on August 1st) and
include the update I have invited a few people to try out (find it
at <http://www.arcade.demon.co.uk/ttfn/> - TTFNu040a.zip) which
contains all newer !TTFN files than are in the 1st August release
and give it the directory structure needed to slot into !Acornet.
> with instructions on how to swap them into acornet.
I'm not sure about the instructions - some details were removed
and replaced with those for Messenger, instead of adding to them.
> As for FreeDial or SlipDial - I'm afraid I'm not the one for that but
> someone else can do that bit if you really think FreeDial is better.
IMO, the configuration system relies on SLIPdial too much to change it.
On Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:20:17 GMT +0000 you replied:
> > # 012633 0.59c error: Number too big at 20686
> >
> > Maybe it's trying to tell us something?
>
> Maybe you're trying to tell me something - but I sure as hell can't
> figure out what.
Just a warning to any Newsbase 0.59d users who might be switching
back to 0.59c when they were to install Acornet 0.20. One can
change back, but it is necessary to edit the c00saved.users file
and remove all occurances of assignments to an item called last.
>
> If you are implying that it contains 0.59c then you are correct.
There is no need to be facetious.
> 0.59d has only just come out.
I installed my copy Sunday lunchtime.
> I can't keep on updating on the fly and
> reuploading everytime a single app is updated.
A mail to the authors of software that is still undergoing
further development might help before bundling it up. :-)
On Tue, 12 Aug 1997 16:04:16 GMT +0000 you wrote:
> And one thing that niggles me is that having clicked on the
> messenger iconbar - it asks you to logon, you then have to click on
> it again to display the groups/emails. Whilst Messenger is clearly
> the kindof email/news reader I think a lot of us have been waiting
> for, I have to say that ttfn integrates into the acornet setup much
> better (especially if put yourselves in the shoes of users praps
> less capable at fiddling and messing with setups).
Thank you kindly for that credit to TTFN. I'm always open to ideas.
> As for the documentation - I felt it would be nice to remove this
> from the main archive to try and reduce the size a bit [..snip..]
I've already (as of August 1st) cut 35K of text from !TTFN.Docs.Versions.
Richard S. | mailto:ttfn@arcade.demon.co.uk | http://www.arcade.demon.co.uk/
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